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Post by IPPO on Jan 19, 2012 23:15:35 GMT -5
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Post by IPPO on Feb 1, 2012 23:47:25 GMT -5
Be sure register at MotorsportReg before midnight Friday even if you are considering to attend. You don't pay until you check in at the event Sunday morning. The online registration significantly speeds up registration/check in for everyone on Sunday. The quicker we finish registration the more runs we'll get. Thanks....
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Post by go_speed_go on Feb 5, 2012 23:15:33 GMT -5
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Post by rtp.rick on Feb 6, 2012 9:08:43 GMT -5
I would think that the Street Tire class would have been scored on the Index. It was for the first event. Just lumping them together and using raw time sure makes you need a higher classed car.
I also don't understand why a bumped car's Index isn't the factor for that car's class. Maybe raw time for class results, but in most cases the "guy" gets screwed for Overall Index. I'm just sayin'.
H's & K's,
Rick Ruth
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Post by spent on Feb 6, 2012 10:20:33 GMT -5
I would think that the Street Tire class would have been scored on the Index. From what I can tell, it is... ? I also don't understand why a bumped car's Index isn't the factor for that car's class. Maybe raw time for class results, but in most cases the "guy" gets screwed for Overall Index. I'm just sayin'. Ya, this is actually a mistake. I brought up the same point last month and they went back and changed it. Raw time still wins class but pax should still be listed as the actual driver's class, not the class they were bumped to. |
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Post by unFIT2compete on Feb 6, 2012 21:14:53 GMT -5
STP, PRO, and Novice are scored by pax. TI(tally imports) is a "Heads Up class." The computer program is usually confused by bumping during pax reports, but "we are working to fix the problem."
As a side note when running STP, try to put your actual class plus a "T" for continuity. Its nice to know what you're up against.
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Post by rtp.rick on Feb 7, 2012 7:31:27 GMT -5
I would think that the Street Tire class would have been scored on the Index. From what I can tell, it is... ? I see that it's supposed to be a heads-up class?? It wasn't at the first event. H's & K's, Rick Ruth |
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Post by spent on Feb 7, 2012 17:02:55 GMT -5
The dixie street tire pax class (STP) is, well, based on the pax index... TI, Tally Import Class, is the class created for the local import car club. That class is heads up. We on the same page yet?  |
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Post by rtp.rick on Feb 8, 2012 6:54:34 GMT -5
The dixie street tire pax class (STP) is, well, based on the pax index... TI, Tally Import Class, is the class created for the local import car club. That class is heads up. We on the same page yet? Oh, I understand now. It was kind of difficult because the TI class was indexed at the first event. I suppose that would/could be a different page? H's & K's, Rick Ruth |
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Post by go_speed_go on Feb 25, 2012 22:10:42 GMT -5
The TI class runs heads up for the trophy, but we also try to provide pax times based on where they would otherwise class to offer them a measuring stick against competitors outside their class.
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Post by rtp.rick on Mar 1, 2012 14:25:30 GMT -5
The TI class runs heads up for the trophy, but we also try to provide pax times based on where they would otherwise class to offer them a measuring stick against competitors outside their class. Consistency from one event to the next would help. Of course, I really don't matter. Whatever works for you folks is best. I just don't see how dissimilar cars (normally classed differently) can have much fun running heads up against other in the same class. I's say the guy in the Vette is going to beat the Mazda 2. Of course, you could probably post the results before the event. :-) H's & K's, Rick Ruth |
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Post by unFIT2compete on Mar 2, 2012 13:06:17 GMT -5
The TI class runs heads up for the trophy, but we also try to provide pax times based on where they would otherwise class to offer them a measuring stick against competitors outside their class. Consistency from one event to the next would help. Of course, I really don't matter. Whatever works for you folks is best. I just don't see how dissimilar cars (normally classed differently) can have much fun running heads up against other in the same class. I's say the guy in the Vette is going to beat the Mazda 2. Of course, you could probably post the results before the event. :-) H's & K's, Rick Ruth Are you actually here running with us or about to? Are you a member of TI? |
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Post by rtp.rick on Mar 2, 2012 14:23:04 GMT -5
No, I was just curious. I try to monitor results from all over the country. Thanks for your help with the clarifications. I was trying to understand the reasons why anyone would want to run all kinds of different cars in a straight-up class. If that's what you want to do, fine, I guess. Just trying to figure it out. The PAX/RTP Index is very useful for that kind of "stuff".
H's & K's,
Rick Ruth
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Post by JaMoto on Mar 2, 2012 21:28:55 GMT -5
Tally Imports is a local car club in Tallahassee. When they all caught the autocross bug, they wanted to compete in the autocrosses against each other, hence the unofficial TI class. They give their own trophies, and have their own championship, but they are also new SCCA Dixie Region members. The main purpose for that class is essentially for them to have a safe, fun environment in which to run their cars against their friends, and to gain new membership and competition in our region. Just one of the many things that makes this region a lot of fun while being very competitive as well.
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Post by go_speed_go on Mar 2, 2012 22:39:10 GMT -5
Hi Rick, Yes, the TI class doesn't make a lot of sense from the outside. They tried running with a Pax index at first, but the Pax greatly favored cars closer to stock than something modified for fun everyday without bothering with an SCCA rulebook(think about how many times you've heard someone new to the sport say "this single xxx mod means I have to run in xxx class?"). With all cars on street tires, an SM 240 SX has little chance against a bone stock WRX using the Pax index. However, when they decided (consensus vote) to run heads up , it became a competitive class based on a combination of driving, mechanical capability, and creative budget. The group is mostly college students and 20-something car enthusiasts with a great deal of mechanical know how and sense for fair competition. Over the last year, drivers who were dominating in the TI class have moved on into traditional SCCA classes to engage greater competition. In the end, this class had been a great addition to our region even though it doesn't make sense by the book. If you'd like to learn more about the thinking behind it, or the exchanges that created the class, you're welcome to come join us at www.tallyimports.com |
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